Michigan police cancel training session after speaker says cops have 'best sex' after killing


A law enforcement trainer who tells cops ‘the best sex happens after you’ve killed someone’ has been canceled from speaking at session for Michigan police suffering from PTSD.

Dave Grossman, a retired Army Lieutenant Colonel who claims to have trained law enforcement officers in all 50 states, faced a stinging backlash after a video clip of his controversial training sessions – dubbed killology seminars – went viral recently.  

In the clip, taken at a police training session, Grossman says: ‘Killing is just not that big a deal.’ 

He goes on to say that cops can experience ‘the best sex’ after killing another human. 

Grossman’s video has outraged social media users in the wake of recent instances of police brutality in the US.

Michigan Association of Chiefs of Police executive director Robert Stevenson, told the Detroit Free Press they had canceled next month’s training session after they receiving complaints about Grossman.

The training session was meant to address the affects of PTSD that some officers may face after killing someone. 

Dave Grossman, founder of the Killology Research Group, has faced a major backlash online for telling cops the 'best sex' happens after killing someone

Dave Grossman, founder of the Killology Research Group, has faced a major backlash online for telling cops the ‘best sex’ happens after killing someone 

Los Angeles Police Department officers on the job in April patrolling an anti-police brutality vigil

Los Angeles Police Department officers on the job in April patrolling an anti-police brutality vigil 

A scree grab from a Ohio police training seminar that featured Grossman

A scree grab from a Ohio police training seminar that featured Grossman

Dave Grossman to cops: ‘They all say, the best sex I’ve had in months’ 

Full text from a video clip of a Dave Grossman training session that recently went viral.

‘I’ve been on the road for 18 years, people know me they trust me, I get a depth of information, I ask questions other people won’t ask.

‘Cop says knock down drag out fight, cuff them and stuff them, finally get home at the end of the shift and… 

‘Cop says gun fight bad guys down, I’m alive. Finally get home at the end of the incident and they all say, the best sex I’ve had in months. 

‘Both partners are very invested in some very intense sex. 

There’s not a whole lot of perks that come with this job. You find one, relax and enjoy.’

Stevenson said a Michigan police officer had recently taken his own life after shooting a suspect dead in 2015.

He said the Oak Pointe Church evangelical church that was due to host the police training event had also received complaints. 

The backlash to the Michigan event was kicked off by a Twitter campaign by Lucky Sparkman, executive director of a Detroit-based feminist group called Bleed Free.

She posted the email and telephone numbers of Stevenson and other members of the police union online and encouraged followers to register their disapproval.  

Prior to the backlash against his controversial methods, Grossman told how he would spend 300 days a year on the road training police on ‘mental preparation for combat,’ which he also refers to as ‘software in your head.’

A 2017 profile on Grossman reported how he ‘claims to have conducted trainings for every federal law enforcement agency, every branch of the armed forces, and cops in all 50 states’. 

He founded the Killology Research Group and in an online biography says he has a black belt in Hojutsu – the martial art of the firearm. 

Grossman’s website explains that Killology is a philosophy he created based upon the idea that ‘anyone can be trained to kill’. 

Grossman wrote a bestselling book, On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society, in which he argued soldiers and cops need to be specifically trained to kill to offset the psychological trauma.

Grossman claims to have conducted trainings for every federal law enforcement agency, every branch of the armed forces, and cops in all 50 states'

Grossman claims to have conducted trainings for every federal law enforcement agency, every branch of the armed forces, and cops in all 50 states’

The number of police shootings in the US has remained steady in recent years at about 1000 per year

The number of police shootings in the US has remained steady in recent years at about 1000 per year

Figures suggest the number of police shootings in the US has remained steady since 2014 at around 1000 per year. 

In the first three months of 2021, preliminary statistics show there were 213 civilians killed by police. 

In 2020, there were 1,021 fatal police shootings, and in 2019 there were 999 fatal shootings.

There has been a series of high-profile civilian deaths at the hands of police officers in recent weeks.

Daunte Wright, a 20-year-old black motorist, was shot during a traffic stop this month in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota, just a few miles from the courthouse where the Derek Chauvin trial was unfolding. 

A white police officer who was training cops at the time, Kim Potter, has been charged with second-degree manslaughter.

In March, 13-year-old Adam Toledo was fatally shot moments after tossing a gun and began raising his hands as he had been ordered to by a police officer. 

And in Columbus, Ohio,  Ma’Khia Bryant, 16, was shot and killed while swinging a knife at another teenager.

Crime has increased sharply in nearly all of America’s big cities since the COVID-19 pandemic began last Spring.  

In Minneapolis, the mayor has banned what he describes as ‘fear-based training’. 

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